This is a log of the Chatzy backchannel conversation during the opening keynote at the 21st Century Learning @ Hong Kong Conference on 17 September 2009.
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Wesley Fryer: Welcome all! Resources for our opening keynote are available on http://handouts.wesfryer.com/ccc
Wesley Fryer: Please use this space as a conference backchannel all week. More info about backchannels is available in Scott Snyder's 2008 K-12 Online Conference presentation, "Back-channels in the Classroom" - http://k12onlineconference.org/?p=330
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jasondenys: Hi everyone
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Justin: Hi everyone
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Justin: Hi dean
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smroldan: I'm diggin the song!
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smroldan: Lyrics are very true....we're used to immediate satisfaction
Klbeasley: Like the way Was is encouraging use of backchannel and twitter
Deank: Interesting
jasondenys: I find it hard to keep up
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smroldan: Yeah, I def. am starting to feel the digital divide
Deank: just let the current carry you
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jasondenys: It is more the multitasking thing
smroldan: So much changes so quickly....I'm just happy I'm at least open minded to it
Rowdy79: hey ccb, what does your name stand for?
Rowdy79: I am glad I found the chatroom...
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Klbeasley: Not recommending we become 'entertainers'
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myronius: Hey all.
Deank: hey you
jasondenys: we don't have to be entertainers. but it hels
Klbeasley: Talking about live blogging the US President's speech the other day
BigStew: hi all
myronius: What about all this "I want it all, I want it now" stuff. Sounds like a bunch of spoiled kids...
Klbeasley: Video of daughter talking about watching Obama's speech
Deank: seems a little self-centered, hard to deal with
smroldan: I think we're just used to getting things instantaneously so when things take long it irks you because you know they can be done faster or more efficiently
Klbeasley: v funny - kid at sch said, 'I'm a republican, I'm not allowed to see it"
myronius: OHHHH-klahoma where the wind comes sweeping down the brain.
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Klbeasley: Daughter speaks very well - so cute, but very articulate
Klbeasley: Gets applause from audience!
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Klbeasley: Her video was seen 178k times
jasondenys: wow
Klbeasley: rated as a top educational video in squillions of countries
jasondenys: better than a cat playing th epiao
Klbeasley: "My friend Marco Torres" - well connected!
jasondenys: piano^
smroldan: So much exposure so quickly these days
Klbeasley: Marco Torres: "the global stage"
myronius: Yeah, but what's the quality? Being exposed is only part of it. Cats on pianos, for example....
AllanahK: Hard for non-Americans to understand the way Americans think about their politicians. So much for democracy when some schools wouldn't allow it to be aired.
AllanahK: Wes showed us Chatzsy when he was in NZ earlier this year.
Klbeasley: Be a bridge -share the knowledge
myronius: Are those books on his shelf? :-)
Klbeasley: Asking: Did you have a professor you wished you could press pause on?
Klbeasley: Engage - not just in real time, but in other places
jasondenys: I would like to pause some students
Klbeasley: Talking about the importance of relationships
Klbeasley: 'Nearly now' - discussing trip to Hawaii, uploading direct to youtube - grandparents connecting
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Klbeasley: @robinthailand - hey friend
Klbeasley: Adults think kids are too wired
Klbeasley: showing time magazine article
Klbeasley: back to the future slide
RobinThailand: What up! Sorry I'm not there for the fun. Just about to board plane.
myronius: Is all technology equal? Are cellphones = laptops = wikis = etc? Hmm
Klbeasley: Showing his wired family
Klbeasley: several screens
myronius: My wife and I email each other from across the room LOL
RobinThailand: No...not all technology is equal.
Klbeasley: daughter chooses iPhone when
Klbeasley: selecting digital media
myronius: Is banning cellphones the same as 'restricting technology'?
Klbeasley: not suggesting we create viral videos - but we need to create content
Klbeasley: digital footprint will be with us forever
myronius: How many kids in that video are 'on task'?
Klbeasley: what changes with ubiqutous access? wfryer says, a lot should change
Klbeasley: how can we transform learning
smroldan: Whoa the pic of all students in an auditorium w/a mac notebook so crazy....
BigStew: interactive whiteborads
myronius: Wikis
BigStew: ICT that works!
BigStew: things that save time
AllanahK: We have a way to go before we can say we hv ubiqutous access- still out of the reach of some and too expensive for others
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AllanahK: Apple would have loved that photo- like a Mac advert really
myronius: HA HA BigStew, You got dissed
smroldan: AllanaHK..yeah, you'd think it was sponsored by them, right?!
Barry: I just asked my son (in Korea) what classroom technology impresses him the most
Barry: microsoft touch surface, he says
Barry: 15-year old tech geek
Klbeasley: We need to transform learning - not do the same things
smroldan: Amen!
Barry: thinking outside the box...
myronius: Barry, the fact that you asked him that in Korea didn't even enter his mind/
Klbeasley: the Goretex effect - we nned to transform learning
Klbeasley: comment moderation
Klbeasley: is a good thing!
Klbeasley: 10 - 15% of comments on her video inappropriate. Moderated comments a good idea!
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Klbeasley: we're going to be a filter
myronius: banning cellphones - bad. Comment moderation = good. Both are types of censorship, no?
Klbeasley: the book of learning and forgetting
Barry: but the moderation is often keeping the content on topic, rather than offtopic
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jasondenys: have to read that book
Klbeasley: @barry - i agree. It's focusing rather than removing
Klbeasley: Sharing video of Brian Crosby, who organised for his student who had cancer to be a part of the classroom via technology
jasondenys: educating kids to be filters too
RobinThailand: Been thinking about ubiquitous computing a lot lately. :)
smroldan: I think it's less about filtering and more about showing students how to use technology responsibly
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Klbeasley: Yes - we have to be real about what we do with kids. No point banning everything and expecting them to be able to navigate the digital world. They need to have experience with it
Barry: but applying communication concepts, we need to eliminate the noise in tthe communications process... the offtopic comments are noise, no?
RobinThailand: They are already there. Look at the games kids are playing.
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Klbeasley: We teach kids to swim, and we can't do that by forbidding them to get in the water
myronius: I agree, but doesn't it seem like the goalposts get moved rather often? IWBs were a good thing only a few years back.
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smroldan: Really amazing how they made the classroom inclusive for a student with different needs
jasondenys: IWBs got good PR
myronius: innovaters/early adpters/early majority/late majority/laggards. Nice breakdown
RobinThailand: IWBs are great when used as teaching tools, not learning tools.
Klbeasley: teachers should be 'digital video certified'
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RobinThailand: Whoops...just got the boarding call. See you all tomorrow. :)
Klbeasley: Renee was a digital witness - a day to remember, Renee Hall - check video
Kim Cofino: Of course Wes' videos work like a charm. Ah technology....
AllanahK: Tools without PD are like unexploded mines- likely to blow up in yr face
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Klbeasley: @robinthailand. See ya!
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Barry: empowering the people
Klbeasley: "Media literacy is critical"
myronius: Here's a strange thought. One thing I love about these tech conferences is the opportunity to listen, watch, talk on backchannels, skype people, use my cellphone, etc etc. But I'd be pretty tense if my students were doing this in my class. Anyone else feel the same?
Barry: we will not become as aware of the power of media as long as we are only consumers. We must be creators to see the power of media in our students' lives
Barry: myronius, are you in a 1:1 classroom setting?
smroldan: What is it we really fear though? Can't people multitask?
Klbeasley: Are you being 'accomodating' or 'transformative' in our classrooms
smroldan: I suppose it depnds on the subject as well
myronius: Going there. But I wonder about letting all the walls down with kids.
smroldan: I don't see this happening for science or drama when you are the middle of an activity
Barry: if they are using Facebook off-topic, why not focus their attention on OUR discussion rather than be off in social-networking land
smroldan: @Barry....agreed...again it comes down to showing them how to be responsible
Klbeasley: I think we fear people not focusing. I wonder what @wfryer thinks about presenting to us with our laptops out?
myronius: Larry Cuban
Klbeasley: technology doesn't equal transformation
Klbeasley: talking about Disrupting Class
Klbeasley: how do you measure effective technology integration?
myronius: But we agree that filtering off-topic conversation when kids post youTubes is good...why would we let them have backchannel chats in class? Can they do that responsibly?
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BigStew: are we doing the back channel chat responsibly?
jasondenys: Some will struggle
Klbeasley: @myronius yes - put it up so ppl can see it!
myronius: @Klbeasley but wont they just find a different venue?
smroldan: @bigstew...i think so...most of us are responding the talk
Klbeasley: refocus! Talk to them about responsible digital behaviour
BigStew: I am looking around this room and I see lots of people (including me!) not paying attention to the speaker. I could not handle this in my own classroom!
myronius: k12onlineconference.org
Klbeasley: not paying attention? I'm paying attention!
smroldan: I'm paying attention
Klbeasley: This is helping me remember stuff. I can go back to this and remind myself
AllanahK: I'm paying attention and I'm not even there LOL
smroldan: I'm typing notes too
Klbeasley: I'm not on facebook - I'm talking about the stuff wfryer is talking abotu
Klbeasley: (though still getting used to netbook keyboards apparently!)
smroldan: one of my grad. profs used to say she took notes so she wouldn't fall asleep
myronius: My wife next to me keeps testing me: "Do you know what he just said? Do you know what he's talking about?" I can't say that I'm 100% dialed in. Certainly not as much as I demand my kids to be....
BigStew: @myronius - my point exactly. I am putting my laptop away!
Klbeasley: You can't MAKE people concentrate. You can engage them. See how wfryer keeps moving around - keeps me watching where he's going to be necxt
myronius: Funny thing: this is an object lesson in exactly what this conference is about.
Kim Cofino: @myronius you just have to learn how to manage - they don't have to have the lids open the whole time - close the lids when you want full attention
smroldan: @myronious...true, you do sacrifice something
jasondenys: I'm trying to blog at the same time
jasondenys: head hurts
myronius: @Klbeasley you're easily fascinated. :-)
Klbeasley: Perhaps we're not getting the whole keynote, but we're getting the benefit of our collective understanding
smroldan: @Kim...also true, as a lang. teacher i know that I wouldn't have them glued to the laptop the entire class
myronius: Funny thing; this is an object lesson in a major component of this conference. :-)
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Klbeasley: Talking about Creativity. How do you act creatively at home or at work?
Klbeasley: @myronuius, no, I'm just a geek!
Klbeasley: Closing with a song - he's not going to sing. I'd like to see that!
myronius: I want the beatles song.
rhonda: what is the point? why is he talking about creativity?
Klbeasley: I need my teachers to learn: www.kevinhoneycutt.org
smroldan: We need to be creative in order to not do the same thing over and over again
smroldan: students need consistency but they need some change as well
smroldan: to change things up so you address all learning styles
myronius: and they need boundaries. With certain technologies inside those boundaries.
myronius: But not everything, and not all the time.
smroldan: so you don't get bored
rhonda: thanks.
Rowdy79: Heya
smroldan: hey rowdy
myronius: LOL
Klbeasley: Do many schools block youtube in the international setting? Ours doesn't
Klbeasley: But maybe more in the states do
myronius: How do schools in CHina survive?
smroldan: I do think that we need to also think about what traditional ways still work and find a balance w/technology
Klbeasley: technology is an amplifier
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smroldan: my school is in HK and i think the students' accounts block youtube, but not teachers
Barry: %u2026prepare %u2018em for their future, not your past.%u201D
smroldan: so we can use videos if we want
myronius: Yes, its an amplifier, but thats not all. Its to deflecting the responsibility for change that technology causes if we only say its an amplifier.
Klbeasley: interesting...
KoreaJames: The windows computers in China also include a protective program called Green Dam, which will kill the process of a program (ex. Notepad) if something politically incorrect (in China's Eyes) is typed.
Klbeasley: @koreajames, good to know! Thanks
smroldan: nite y'all....see u tomorrow
myronius: See ya.
Klbeasley: night guys.
KoreaJames: The funny thing is China pays the maker of the software $15 million (USD) a year for the program to be licensed to all in China
Klbeasley: haha
KoreaJames: Even though the program was proved to have stolen much of its code from a US company.
rhonda: but it is morning here and time to walk the dog. Thanks for the back-channel. Catch you later.
AllanahK: Another reason to select an Apple maybe?
AllanahK: Thanks all- time for bed!
KoreaJames: To tell the truth Apple computers aren't ready for many Asian countries, or they aren't ready for Apple. (Many Korean and Chinese banking sites use the active-x environment for secure banking, which is only available for Internet Explorer on windows)
KoreaJames: Many other sites also use active x, which will cause websites to load incorrectly on non IE browsers.
KoreaJames: :( everyone has left me
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KoreaJames: Hello
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Mary: this looks like lots of fun-who was the keynote?
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